Genesis 11,12, age of Abram

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> >> TILL

> >> I'll tell you what some problems are in the way that you have

presented

> >this

> >> contradiction.  First, Genesis 11:26 says that Terah lived 70 years

and

> >> begot Abram, Nahor, and Haran, so unless you know that these three

were

> >> triplets, you can't successfully argue that Terah was 70 when Abram

was

> >> born.  Although Abram is listed first, It would be possible that he

was

> >not

> >> the first of Terah sons. An inerrantist could argue that Terah was 70

> >when

> >> his first son was born and that this was, say, Haran; then some time

> >later,

> >> Nahor was born, and at still a later date, Abram was born.  The fact

that

> >> Abram was listed first would not necessarily mean that he was the

eldest

> >> son, because sons weren't always listed in the order of their birth. 

We

> >can

> >> see this in the case of Noah's sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.  They are

> >> consistently listed in this order (Gen. 5:32; 6:10; 8:18), yet Genesis

> >9:24

> >> identifies Ham as the "youngest son" of Noah.  So an inerrantist could

> >argue

> >> that just because Abram was listed first in Genesis 11:26 cannot be

seen

> >as

> >> proof that he was actually the firstborn son of Terah.  You should be

> >aware

> >> that this is how that an informed inerrantist will reply to this

> >> "contradiction."

> >> 

> >IAN

> >I am not sure if I agree with you here Till. My KJV states (Ge. 9:24):

And

> >Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his YOUNGER son had done unto

him.

> >

> >Please note, that is 'younger', not 'youngest.' Therefore, I think it

could

> >be either of the two younger sons.

> >

> >Of course, my RSV uses youngest as does the New World Translation but

The

> >Book uses younger so I don't know where we stand on this. 

> >

> 

> TILL

> The JBS (Jewish Bible Society) translation uses "youngest."  I have 27

> translations in my personal library, and in spot checking about a dozen

of

> them, I found none but the KJV and NKJV that used "younger."  

> 

IAN
OK but my Smith's Bible Dictionary says of Ham, "The name of one of the
three sons of Noah, apparently the second in age." I would be hard pressed
to say you are wrong but I would be hard pressed to say you are right also.
Matt uses the KJV so I shouldn't have a problem with him. Ron is Catholic
so I'll have to check into that. Do you have a Catholic Bible, Till?

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