Fw: Fw: Fulfilling Prophecy

Farrell Till jftill@midwest.net
Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:58:39 -0800 (00887543919, 2.2.32.19980215055839.006d01c4@midwest.net)


At 06:28 PM 2/14/98 -0500, Brian Dean wrote:

>RON
>You know no answer will ever be good enough for him. But how
>about Jesus' prediction that Israel would be "trampled on by the
>gentiles until the time of the gentiles would be fulfilled". A paraphrase.
>The re-creation of the state of israel after such a long time is
>unheard of in world history. But my prophecy will be his coincidence no
>matter what.
>
>JOHN HAMILTON
>Since there seems to be absolutely no resemblance between the modern
>nation of Israel and any 'nation' mentioned in either the 'Old' or 'New'
>Testaments, I don't see how this could be any form of prophecy fulfillment.
>
>TILL
>As I pointed out, the statement that Ron referred to was not made about
>Israel but Jerusalem. I don't think we will see Ron saying too much more
>about this prophecy. Maybe he would like to try another one.
>
>RON
> Man, you guys are really making me work! But I couldn't resist
>disproving Mr. Till's prophecy ("not...too much more")! I was indeed
>referring to Luke 21:20-24. Obviously Titus' "trampling" was not limited
>to the environs of Jerusalem alone! He is referring immediately to
>Jerusalem herself, but also mentions "this people", obviously the Jews.
>Since they are connected with the Jewish nation with Jerusalem as its
>capital, they are obviously a part of this prophecy. Jesus said they
>would fall by the sword and be led as captives to every gentile country
>until the time of the gentiles is fulfilled. This is a very concise
>description of Jewish history from the fall of Jerusalem (yes, and
>Israel) until the repossession of Jerusalem by the Jews in this century.
> What I find most interesting about this prophecy is that Jesus made
>this a precondition for the following events (Luke 21:25-28), the
>disasters preceding the second coming of the Son of Man. How many
>Christians were waiting for this event without taking this requirement
>into consideration!
TILL Ron, I'll get to this as soon as I can. Right now I am involved in responding to a prophecy-fulfillment claim on another list. It is an intricate matter that is requiring several postings, so I'll keep yours in my in-box and get back to it as quickly as I can. Farrell Till Skepticism, Inc. jftill@midwest.net