Gandhi's Christlike behavior

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Greg, Nancy, and James Todd wrote:

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> >>

> >> <snip>

> >> >> [John Hamilton]

> >> >> You're assuming that a question about 'Western civilization' is a question

> >> >> about 'Christianity'?

> >> >

> >> >CLAIRE

> >> >No, but I am assuming that Gandhi's criticism of "Western civilization"

> >> >(or lack thereof) was not a criticism of Christianity, even though

> >> >Christianity was the principal faith tradition of Western civilization.

> >> >The fact that his grandson proudly repeated the "Christlike" quote makes

> >> >me think that Gandhi admired Christ's behavior, even though Gandhi was a

> >> >Hindu.

> >> >

> >> >If Gandhi admired some ideals of Christianity (i.e., those ideals

> >> >modeled on Christ's behavior),

> >>

> >> NANCY

> >> Like forbidding his followers from burying their dead fathers? Like causing

> >> a herd of swine to plunge over a cliff to drown? Like instituting symbolic

> >> cannibalism? Like condoning slavery? Like telling the poor to accept their

> >> lot? Like fashioning whips out of cords and beating money-lenders,

> >> overturning their tables? Like telling his followers that they must *hate*

> >> their families?

> >>

> >> Nancy Todd

> >> todds@pa.net

> >

> >CLAIRE

> >Nancy, it's up to you whether you wish to hate Mahatma Gandhi because of

> >his apparent admiration of Jesus Christ. I didn't make this up.

> >

> >~Claire O'Connor

> >

> >

> NANCY

> You obviously realize that you are unable to defend your contention that

> your precious savior was sinless. Otherwise, I don't think you would have

> written such a snotty non-response. To begin with, I said nothing about

> hating Gandhi. I said nothing that could even be remotely construed in such

> a way. I said nothing at all about Gandhi. You realize, I am sure, that I

> simply pointed out some of Jesus's less admirable teachings and actions. You

> are unable to deal with the plain fact that the bible shows Jesus to be a

> violent, anti-family, abusive, thieving sinner. All you can manage in his

> defense is a feeble response that he didn't really steal the colt and the

> ass. So, to distract from your inability to support your contention that

> Jesus was sinless in the face of bible verses that demonstrate that he was

> clearly a sinner, you appeal to emotions by accusing me of hating Gandhi. No

> one on the list is fooled by your tactics, Claire. Your behavior is

> pathetic, and I really feel sorry for you. You have obviously been

> indoctrinated with RC bullshit since your birth and you cannot look at

> anything objectively. You seem to be unwilling to think for yourself. Till

> is right; all you seem to be able to do is parrot what your religious

> instructor or catholic bible commentary has to say.

> 

> Nancy Todd

> todds@pa.net



CLAIRE
Nancy, I wish you hadn't written my name above your response. I changed
it to yours.

By the way, it wasn't just the theft of the colt that was addressed.
Joseph Crea refuted your statement that Jesus "stole grain". I have
already mentioned that Jesus was using rabbinic exaggeration when he
told his followers to "hate" their families. In another message here, I
point out that, if I were to make a general (insulting) statement about
some atheist's messages on this list, but admit that I did not read that
person's messages, I would "have my head handed to me". Obviously, I did
not mean that literally. I am using "Claire exaggeration", or whatever
you would like to call it. 

I don't see what is so wrong about offering what I read in my Bible
commentary as an interpretation of a particular passage. You have your
interpretation; I have mine. If you don't like my interpretation, that
is your business.

Why can't you accept that Gandhi might have admired Christ? Both Linda
and I have independently offered evidence that Gandhi admired Jesus
Christ, but was critical of Christians for not living up to Christian
ideals. Since you seem to hate Jesus Christ, I thought that you might
think less of Gandhi if you knew for certain that he was an admirer of
Jesus Christ.

Sincerely,
Claire O'Connor

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