Ambiguity, amphiboly and contradictions (was Re: Modalist view of Jesus (for vanhoose))

Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:33:39 -0500 (00887157219, 19980210182621.AAA16248@briandea)



> MWF 2/10 Substituting one, or two, ambiguous terms for another
ambiguous
> term doesn't clear up any of the problems of meaning.

> MWF 2/10 Now we get still ANOTHER ambiguous term? So far we have
>essence, nature, constitution, and substance.
Let me take a stab at this. I would define "essence" negatively in the sense that "essence" is whatever you have that if you take it away, you no longer have that thing. For example, a car has 'something' that if you took it away it would no longer be a car. If you put a car under several tons of dynomite and blow it up you would no longer have a car (i.e. the essence is gone). However, what is this essence? If you take the motor out, you still have a car. If you take the wheels off you still have a car. So is there really an 'essence' of a car? But assuming that you can make better sense of 'essence' than I can (many philosophers have tried) then 'nature' is something that CAN change and still have that thing. So wheels are part of the 'nature' of a car but not part of its 'essence'. This is merely because you can remove the wheels and still have a car. So what the doctrine of the trinity is saying is that there is this 'essence' of God which the Father, Son, Holy Spirit share but yet they are distinct. Sort of like my cat shares the same 'essence' of catness that your cat does, but my cat and your cat are different. So the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can share the 'essence' of Godness but be three different persons. However, there are serious problems if you try to really pin down what 'essence' really is. I already pointed this out by showing that you can't really pinpoint what the 'essence' of a car is for example. So if you can't even pinpoint the 'essence' of a car, then how can you make arguments about the 'essence' of God?