The Piso Page (was Re: Origins of Christianity)
Greg, Nancy, and James Todd todds@pa.net
Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:36:24 -0500 (00886995384, 199802082136.QAA13038@emh1.pa.net)
>LINDA
>I found a great web page while researching the pagan roots in
>Christianity.
>I haven't read it all yet so I don't even know if it favors my position.
>But it has some great articles I've been looking for. Check it out.
>
>http://www.widomaker.com/~piso/html/origin.html
>
>SJW
>Thanks for the link to this very interesting site.
>Perhaps you might want to read the forward to any future sites before
>sending it on to the list. I'm not saying this is a bad site, it's
>just a little wacko.
>Following is the first sentence in the Forward:
>
>This was written to explain how and why the Roman Piso Family wrote the
>New testament.
>
>I can't wait to see what the rest of the document reveals!
>
>SJane Weisiger
>assissi@yahoo.com
>
>==
NANCY
This site is a little beyond wacko. It is just plain crazy. But I have to
admit that it is imaginative and even audacious (since it contains so many
obvious and easily verificable errors and downright silly assertions). I was
first referred to this page about four years ago by a Zech Sitchin true
believer. When I started pointing out a few of the glaring errors, he would
have none of it. The Piso story supported his beliefs and he wasn't about to
let a few facts stand in the way. Like so many other crack-pot
pseudohistorical writings, this one provides a lot of references, but very
few page numbers. Are you willing to read through over 50 pages of Suetonius
in order to find some unspecified alphanumeric reference? Or Asimov's guide
to the Bible? How much trust would you place in someone who includes as a
reference "Guy Edward Farguhar Chilver on the works of Tacitus. This
particular book title unknown [sic] at this time but seen at Dennison
Library at the Claremont Colleges, Claremont, CA."
Additionally, the Piso story involves a long-lasting and wide-spread
conspiracy, so any evidence that refutes the Piso assertions can be written
off as part of the consipiracy. I.e., if the historical record contradicts
any of the assertions, e.g. the assertion that Suetonius (70C.E. - 140C.E.)
is actually Antoninius Pius (86C.E. - 161C.E), then that is only because the
Pisos made the historical record appear that way to protect the conspirators.
Some of the unsupported assertions are:
Josephus is actually Arrius Piso, the nephew and adopted son of Lucius
[Calpernius] Piso, the father of Trajan's wife, and the inventor of Jesus,
John the Baptist, and James the brother of Jesus. He is also the
mathematicial Nicomachus.
Tacitus was really Cornelius Fuscus.
The emperor Trajan was Plutarch.
The emperor Antoninius Pius (the uncle and adoptive father of Marcus
Aurelius) was both Suetonius and Tatian and was the grandson of Josephus
(aka Arrius Piso).
The Pisos and their co-conspirators had a habit of salting the NT with their
names, often with some of the letters changed. When Aulus is mentioned, it
is Aulus Vitellius;. Levi is the Roman historian Livy, who was supposedly a
relative; how Levi (Lebbaeus in Latin, Lebbaios in Greek) would be Livius is
not explained). Cornelius is Cornelius Tacitus, while Obed and Jobed are the
poet Ovid (but no reason is given why Ovid, who died in 17 C.E., should be
included). The book of Mark is named for Marc Antony. It goes on and on.
Nevermind that the praenomina Aulus, Marcus, Gaius, Lucius, etc. were
extremely common names - during the Republic and early Empire, the Romans
used only 18 "first" names.
My favorite part of the page is the section "How The Devil Got His Looks"
(in the document "Who Was Whom").
"There was no 'Devil' before Piso made him as the enemy of Jesus. [This
shows an ignorance of the Jewish apochrypha and Persian dualism - NT] The
Hebrew books did originally mention 'Satan', but the word meant the bad
nature of disposition that a person may have at times [wrong, wrong, wrong -
NT] - not a 'Devil' as the N.T. describes. And of course, the concept of
'Hell' was borrowed from the fictional place that the Greeks called 'Hades'.
[This guy should read Elaine Pagels' _The Origin of Satan_ - NT]
1. He's red. They were joking about the family name of 'Ahenobarbus' which
by Suetonius' reference denotes the color 'red' because of the ruddy color
of the Ahenobarborus [sic] men's beards. 'Ahenobarbus', was the name of the
family line through which Nero's father came from. 'Red' is also a family
nickname, which, was changed around by switching inter-changeable letters.
Those names include; 'Kokkes','Sosses', 'Cocces'.
2. Horns on his head. Since the 'Devil' is Piso himself, and Piso is the
Beast ('ippos') in 'Revelations', his son Julius, gives the 'beast' 10
horns (which are meant to allude to another family name coming from
Cleopatra Selene's father 'Aulus', meaning 'pipe', 'flute', or 'horn').
This, in 'Revelations' 13:1.
3. Pitch-fork. In 'Acts of the Apostles' Arrius Piso makes his 'pitches'
with his 'forked'-tongue for his new religion, saying; "Come one, come all,
see the great creation - 'Jesus'."
4. He's got a pointed tail (tale). Of course the Devil (Piso) has a pointed
tale - the Jesus story! It's pointed
because he makes jokes, puns, and ridicules his enemies in it! [Tail, tale
-- get it? Only problem is that the Pisos were writing in Greek and Latin,
not English. - NT]
5. Cloven feet. 'Clovis', which is a form of the family name 'Clodius'
('Claudius'). We also get the association betweenSt. Patty 'Calpernius',
the 'Sham-rock' ('Shammi', 'Petros', 'rock'), and the 'Four-leafed' clover.
This comes later, when St. Augustine (and his brother?) St. Patrick go to
Ireland to drive out the Druids (snakes), and establish Christianity there.
6. Forked-tongue. Of course, the Devil (Piso) speaks with a forked-tongue
(and he is 'double-minded' as the N.T. says), because he lies. The American
Indians never said; "White man speak with forked-tongue," except in movies.
Because an 'inner-circle' member made that up as a joke. 'White man' is
'Albinus', a Piso family name. Also, they made the association with the
snake having a forked-tongue, alluding back to the snake lying to Eve. The
reference to 'Forked-tongue' can be found in the New Testament itself, in
Acts 2:3"
The Piso page is heavy on numerology that is based on a 'new' Greek
alphanumeric system devised by, you guessed it, Arrius Piso/Josephus himself.
This is one of the most obviously laughable "theories" I have seen on the web.
Nancy Todd
todds@pa.net