Bible Study (Vanhoose)
PATSPEARS patspears@email.msn.com
Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:59:03 -0800 (00886294743, 065f60002161f18UPIMSSMTPUSR01@email.msn.com)
>> THOMSON
>> Look IAN, the New Testament is about Christianity: the Old Testament
>> is about Judaism. Why do you insist upon talking about the myths of
>> Genesis when the subject is Jesus Christ! If you in your ignorance
>> are unfamiliar with the NT....I suggest you read it fool. Get with
>> the program dumbkopf!
>> You might as well say lets discuss Christianity but I've only read
>> Gone with the Wind!
>>
>> James Thomson
>> Amazed at what I read on the Errancy list!!
>>
>> BRIDEAN
>> Am I to assume based on what you said above that the book of Genesis
>> doesn't have any more relevance to Christianity than "Gone with
>> the Wind"? If that is the case, perhaps you should tell those
>> dudes who print Bibles that if they are going to include an
>> irrelevant book like Genesis in it then they might as well include
>> "Gone with the Wind" too.
>>
>> Brian Dean
>> Amazed at the ad hoc, non-sequitors spoken by biblical inerrantists.
>>
>IAN
>I'm very curious to know just which church Thomson goes to an just
>which Bible he uses.
>
PATRICK
Perhaps Thomson uses a bible version which omits verse 22, chapter 5 of
Matthew, which says: "whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of
hell fire" (MT 5:22). Surely no Christian who desired to avoid the hellfire
would in engage in such blatant violation of the literal and inspired word
of god.
THOMSON
>>Why do you insist upon talking about the myths of Genesis when the subject
is Jesus Christ!
PATRICK
I can think of at least one good reason, and that is because Jesus is
alleged to have said that the "myths" of Moses contained information about
him, as did the prophets and the psalms (LK 24:44-45).
Another good reason to start with Genesis rather than the NT is that the
Jewish worldview established by the Torah is presupposed by all later Jewish
writings, including the NT, so starting with the Torah would be analogous to
starting a book at chapter 1. The book may be "really about" what happens in
the last chapter, but that's no reason one should start reading at that
chapter. It is just common sense to start a story at the chronological
beginning, and no one has yet presented a good reason to start with the NT.
That would be like watching the end of a movie first, and then scanning
haphazardly back through the earlier parts trying to reconstruct the course
of events and influences which led to that end.
Starting with the OT, specifically with the Torah, is perfectly valid
because all of its basic ideas are presupposed in later Jewish writings,
from the NT, to the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Talmud, etc., etc. Whether
Christian claims are true or not, it will always be the case that the NT
represents only one of several different traditions which are all founded
upon the basic Jewish traditions established in the Torah.
Sincerely,
Patrick