30 pieces of silver
JAlw@aol.com JAlw@aol.com
Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:57:02 EST (00915091022, 23e46078.368ad9ee@aol.com)
In a message dated 98-12-30 16:01:52 EST, you write:
<< Subj: Re: 30 pieces of silver
Date: 98-12-30 16:01:52 EST
From: brite1@inetworld.net (Ray & Sandy Briggs)
Sender: owner-errancy@infidels.org
To: errancy@infidels.org
Joe Alward wrote to Bach:
I don't know how you could think that I don't know that God is supposed to
have inspired all of the verses; I've made that point emphatically many times
on this list, as recently as three days ago when I rebutted another member's
contention that the only way for Mark to have known that the sun had risen
was
for him--or someone else--to have actually seen it come up over the horizon.
I responded that since every word in the bible comes from the lips of God, it
was obvious that God had told Mark that the sun had risen.
Ray:
I was the one you are referring to here. I think you misunderstood me
however. I don't deny that inerrantists think the bible is inspired, but I
don't think they believe every word was given to them.
What that means in this case is God would not have permitted Matthew to
make an error like saying a prophesy came from a book it did not come from
- not that God would have dictated the sentence, at least that is my
understanding of how this inerrancy thing operates.
Regards, Ray
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Joe Alward:
Till insists that this list was set up to debate those inerrantists who
believe the bible was verbally inspired, to one has the right to claim that
Mark merely wrote down what God told him.
When I attempted to harmonize a verse by invoking what was jokingly referred
to as Alward's Inerrancy Doctrine, i.e., the notion that bible-writers did not
always write down information received directly from god, that they sometimes
wrote that which was commonly accepted as true, I almost started World War
III. You may not have been with the list at that time, but my comments
infuriated Farrell Till, who responded with five-part treatise on inerrancy.
Till insists that true inerrantist MUST believe that every word in the bible
came from God. This is what Till wrote:
"In four previous postings entitled "Understanding Biblical Inerrancy," I
showed that leading inerrancy spokesmen, past and present, have declared
emphatically that the Bible was verbally inspired of God. As I noted, the term
"verbal inspiration" denotes that God inspired not the thoughts or ideas in
the Bible, but THE VERY WORDS THAT THE WRITERS USED." (emphasis mine)
Till's essays on inerrancy are at
http://members.aol.com/jalw/farrell_till_on_inerrancy.html