Power of Prayer
Carl Geisik cgeisik@lanl.gov
Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:25:34 -0700 (00913613134, 3.0.32.19981213162532.006d30d4@dxmail.lanl.gov)
At 10:24 PM 12/13/98 -0000, you wrote:
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>>GEISIK
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>>Come on Matt. I expected better than the "old saw" about
>>taking things out of context. At least some >mention of
>>not "testing God."
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>>Anyway, let's see....the Matthew quote is right after the part
>>where Jesus curses the fig tree for not producing fruit on
>>command. He mentions that if you have faith you can do the
>>same and even move a mountain. Then he mentions the
>>line quoted. Please note that he puts no qualifiers on the
>>comment. The context is the discussion of power and how it
>>can be used and demonstrated by his followers.
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>>Second quote has the same context with the possible excuse
>>that when in prayer, you must forgive anyone that you may have
>>something against. Certainly you, as a good Christian, are not
>>guilty of that? Once again, no qualifiers or limits placed on
>>what you ask for or why.
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>>Sorry Matt. You are batting zero for two. Thanks for playing
>>though.
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>Matthew Bell
>Now go back and read what I read. I said, 'subject', not 'verse(s)'. Prayer
>must be understood and practiced in line with the whole scriptural instruction
>and example set therein, not in an verse or two taken in isolation from the
>rest. A bit of profound for errantists, but nevertheless sound practice for
>Christians.
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>Thanks
>M.Bell
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Let's see if get this right. The champions of quoting out of context (Christians) have the hypocrisy to fall back on this argument when ever they are faced with clear and obvious passages that they don't like. Then, when pressed, they are not able to show EXACTLY how the passage is "out of context". Instead they come up with some vague arguments from ascertation and try to slink back into their lairs hoping that no one will notice the problem?
They and their sack of rotten scriptural "potatoes". They try to pick through the fetid mess in a desperate hope of finding something eatable while holding their noses at the rest.
'bout right Matt?
Carl Geisik