Eternal damnation (M.Bell-J.Epler)

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M.BELL

> > > > For me, the Bible produces a morality that is well-balanced

> > > > and healthy, aswell as right doctrine. I have no questions

> > > > that other religions can produce moral persons, or indeed

> > > > that no religion can produce moral person, it is a matter

> > > > of degree, the Bible producing the most moral standard,

> > > > others religions next and no religions last.

> 

J.EPLER

> > > Do you just think this, or do you have evidence to furnish?

> > > I believe you were on the list when evidence was furnished that

> > > atheists are statistically fewer in prison than "at large"...

> 

M.BELL

> > Statistics are notoriously deceptive. Definitions of 'atheists' are

many,

> > from strong atheist to weak atheist. How many who answer a survey on

the

> > question, 'Are you an atheist', and who answer in the affirmative have

> > actually thought the issue out and after looking at all the evidence

made

> > their decision? The same applies to the word Christian. Many taking

upon

> > themselves that title as some inherent right or 'because they were

> > baptised' or 'go to church every Sunday'. Getting true figures is a

> > difficult, if not impossibe task, hence I don't take to serious the

above

> > statistic you refer to.

> 

J.EPLER

> So what basis do you have for asserting what you did?  We've given you

our

> basis for assertion that there's possibly a correlation in another

> direction (OT massacres, inquisition, this survey, etc) and you just wave

> your hands to dismiss them.  POOF!, the words "notoriously deceptive",

and

> the discussion is done.


M.BELL
I do not recall anyone giving OT massacres or the inquisition as a basis
for your assertion on this thread. Did I miss a post or are you just
throwing them in just now? I responded to the one evidence you provided
i.e. the survey. The basis for my assertion is my experience and knowledge
of God's Word. There are many not of the Christian faith who would perhaps
object to adultery, but how many would consider lusting for another woman
on the same level (Matthew 5:3-7:29)

Thanks
Matt Bell

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