(Ron) Borgia to Ron

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HELEN
I see Ron is claiming an infallible source of moral direction from the
Catholic Church.

I would like to ask him some of the same questions we asked Claire. 
Ron, what does your church say about Rodrigo Borgia (Pope Alexander 
VI)? If the church is an infallible source of moral guidance, then how did this
guy end up as pope? 

If your church is not an infallable source of moral guidance then don't
you, like the rest of us mortals, have to think about what you feel
about the right and wrong of a thing, perhaps having the wisdom to
consult people or books that have proven themselves to be wise to you 
in the past, and then make your own best judgement on the morality of a
given situation? Isn't this the root of all human morality?


RON
  The Holy Spirit will not permit a pope to pronounce in error on 
matters of faith and doctrine when the conditions for speaking 
infallibly are met. This is not based on the virtue of the particular 
pope, but on the Power of the Holy Spirit. All popes, just as other 
human beings (except Mary and Jesus), sin to a greater or lesser degree. 
  The difference in our moral judgement is that I seek to accomodate my 
actions to God's will even when it is inconvenient or burdensome to me. 
An atheist, ultimately, ends up with himself as the final arbiter of 
what is right. Even the words "right" or "moral" are self-defined. Those 
people you consult have no basis for their own decisions, so their 
judgement is not at all binding.

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