(Ron) Natural Man

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>ACHILLES

>I can follow you here, to a point. But this fails completely to explain 

why

>so many people who practice "spiritual consciousness" "through prayer,

>meditation, and contemplation" come to so many diverse and incompatible

>conclusions. While I think there is a universal core of understanding 

that

>comes from these techniques, it is clearly not a theological one. 

Catholic,

>Buddhists, and Tantric monastics do have a few points of agreement, and 

I

>think that is important, but it certainly does not support your 

biblical

>theology because that is not among the agreements. 

>

>

RON
  Buddhists do not seek by their mysticism to unite with God. They seek 
only a "natural" enlightenment, and that I can grant them. I don't 
believe it frees them from any chain of existence or any form of 
reincarnation. I don't think that even they can explain the mechanics of 
this. How does being enlightened affect anything except one's 
consciousness? So, since one method achieves a natural state of 
enlightenment and the other is produced by God communing with us, we 
could only expect similarities up to a point. I do believe that 
Christian mystics can achieve a natural form of enlightenment, but that 
the Christian may go farther to the point of meeting and experiencing 
God.
   

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