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>RON

>  That's where you are wrong. We are not LIMITED to our reason. Without 

>the supernatural/spiritual vision human beings are incomplete and fail 

>to grasp the fulness of reality. The spiritual vision transcends and 

>fulfills the vision of Faith and Reason. So I am not suggesting that 

>Reason is bad, only that it is weak and must be strengthened and 

>informed by the spiritual. Reason and Faith are incomplete without 

>spiritual understanding/experience. The way to attain this spiritual 

>consciousness is through prayer, meditation, and contemplation.

>

ACHILLES
I can follow you here, to a point. But this fails completely to explain why
so many people who practice "spiritual consciousness" "through prayer,
meditation, and contemplation" come to so many diverse and incompatible
conclusions. While I think there is a universal core of understanding that
comes from these techniques, it is clearly not a theological one. Catholic,
Buddhists, and Tantric monastics do have a few points of agreement, and I
think that is important, but it certainly does not support your biblical
theology because that is not among the agreements. 

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