(Ron) Definition of Inerrancy
Jeff Epler jepler@inetnebr.com
Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:29:41 -0500 (00904670981, 19980901072941.57288@inetnebr.com)
On Tue, Sep 01, 1998 at 02:14:53AM -0400, Ron wrote:
> RON
> Just a few thoughts:
> Six hundred years ago the notion that the earth was a globe was an
> exceptional statement, foreign to most people's experience.
Although it had been reasoned out by Greek philosophers centuries
earlier, I guess this knowledge was lost to common man for some
centuries after the fall of the roman empire and the rise of the
catholic church. I'm not sure what this has to do with my argument,
though.
> You could also, using your reasoning, say that if God was perfect then
> everything He created should be perfect. Of course this also depends on
> your interpretation of "perfect".
Well, if there's such an idea as "perfect", it'd mean the same thing
whether it was applied to god or any other object. When it becomes
false that word X means the same thing when applied to god or to
non-god, it turns out that we can't say anything about god, or if we
do then it doesn't have any particular meaning.
But, when was the last time you set out to create something flawed?
> Another point I'm trying to make is that we don't automatically, even
> if innocent, deserve to go to heaven.
I guess that if you're comfortable with the idea of a man who is born,
lives a completely innocent life, and dies possibly going to hell, I
guess you've nothing to worry about from my argument. But do you
really think this is just?
Besides, Romans 3:23 says that _all_ have sinned. So even if your
interpretation about innocents possibly being hell-bound is correct,
you haven't escaped a contradiction. The bible says, "P(all men
sin)=1" and my argument concludes "P(all men sin)<1". Maybe it's true
that saints go to hell, but if my argument about probability of sin is
true then there's still a biblical contradiction.
> So how can you interpret not going there or being born separate
> as punishment. If someone hit you would that be God punishing
> you? Couldn't it just be someone exercising his free will?
Well, if you want to get into the argument from evil, I can keep a
strong case against god even if I exclude evidence about evils that can
be attributed to free will.
However,
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