A final presentation of the Indifferent Contradiction
Ben9275375@aol.com Ben9275375@aol.com
Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:43:28 -0400 (EDT) (00875598208, 970929194107_-1832715238@emout03.mail.aol.com)
In a message dated 97-09-29 13:22:11 EDT, you write:
<< TILL
Let's just put this issue into focus with a question that Matt should be
able to answer. ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE NOW LIVING ANYWHERE ON EARTH WHOSE
ATTITUDE TOWARD JESUS COULD ACCURATELY BE REPRESENTED WITH THE WORD
"INDIFFERENT"?
MATT
Yes there would be, but this must be qualified by stating that from a
Scriptural perspective indifference=against and never for.
BEN
But there is a conflicting scriptural perspective. What Till is trying
to tell you is that there is a contradiction. You admit that there are
people who are indifferent to Christ. One passage says that those who are
not for him (which the indifferent would qualify) are against him. On the
other hand, the other passage they have been showing you is that those who
are not against him (the indifferent would qualify here, too) are for him.
So on passage is saying the indifferent are for him, and the other is
saying
they are against him. And you admitted (it is quoted earlier in this
paper)
that there are indifferent people. So the contradiction is valid.
MATT
You argument falls down when you say 'the indifferent would qualify here
too'. The indifferent are, through original sin, effectively against Jesus
and the Gospel. So the contradiction is invalid. >>
BEN
But Matt, they do qualify. They are not against Jesus. I am not against
Jesus. Therefore I would qualify under the latter passage as well as the
first. No mention of origional sin is present. And okay, let's say you are
right. Origional sin is a concept developed by the Catholic church. I was
raised Catholic. I was forgiven of my origional sin through infantile
baptism. I am indifferent, now. So am I for or against Christ? The two
passages contradict each other with me as evidence!