A Fallacious Tear-Jerking Scenario

Farrell Till jftill@midwest.net
Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:57:38 -0500 (CDT) (00873957458, 199709102357.SAA12301@cdale3.midwest.net) 

TILL

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Even the suffering angle is fallacious.  If Jesus was himself God, then he
too was omniscient and omnipotent, so he had nothing to fear during his
trial and crucifixion, because he knew that he wasn't really going to die.
If he had all power, then he could have anesthetized himself so that he
wouldn't feel anything, so if he suffered any pain, it was his own fault.
Furthermore, how could a preacher know that "pain" would be the same to a
god, whose ways are always higher than man's ways?

This whole tear-jerking scenario is too ridiculous for words.

MATT

I could not hold off responding to this post by you any longer Till :) What
is ridiculous is your complete misunderstanding of what is claimed happened
to Christ on the cross, and what the sufferings of Christ involved. Suggest
you learn what Christians believe this was as you obviously do not have a
clue based on your above comment. Once you have educated yourself on this
perhaps you would consider retracting the last line of your above post as
being down to your ignorance of Christianity rather than a true
representation of the same.

TILL
What exactly have you answered?  You remind me of a couple of Christian
airheads that I am having exchanges with on another list.  They claim that
they don't have to explain or prove anything because their faith is
sufficient enough to show that they are right.  My contention is that the
anthropomorphic nonsense about a "heavenly father" grieving over the death
of his son is completely idiotic, because it offers no explanation of why an
omniscient, omnipotent deity who would know that his "son" was eternal would
have any reason to experience grief that could be compared to an earthly
father whose son is killed.  Blame yourself and not me for the stupidity of
this scenario.  

To be blunt about it, Matt, who gives a rat's ass what Christians believe?
The issue is not what Christians believe but whether what Christians believe
is logically defensible.



Farrell Till
Skepticism, Inc.
jftill@midwest.net