"Victory" in Debates

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> My point, Walt, is that victory in debates depends on the predispositions

of

> those who declare victory.  I simply let the records of my debates speak

for

> themselves.


Opps!  I guess I should have thrown this idea in as well.  I was on my
noon-
hour when I replied, thus being in a hurry.  You are, without a doubt,
absolutely correct!  I tried to insinuate that point with the "preaching to
the choir," as I meant that to cover all areas within the "cheer leading
section."


> You addressed this posting to Douglas Larson, who mentioned Herman Otten

in

> a posting earlier today.  In November 1991, I began a written debate in

> Otten's paper *Christian News,* and my opponent was William Bischoff, a

> Lutheran preacher in Bridgeton, Missouri.  Bischoff quit after three

> exchanges, and Otten got a fellow by the name of Charles Provan to

continue

> the debate.  After a few exchanges between Provan and me, Otten stopped

the

> debate and refused to publish a manuscript that I sent in response to

> Provan's latest.  Yet who do you suppose won this debate?  My opponents

did.

> Just ask Otten and the readers of his papers, who are mainly

fundamentalist

> Lutherans.  They'll tell you that I lost.


Eh Gad!!!  You're on Herman's "Shit List?"  I submitted articles on
"Lutheran
Unionism" and a more biblical examination of the sacraments (opposed to
the Formula of Concord) and this guy simply came unglued over the phone.
Because of the content of my articles, he too refused to publish them.
Thus I too became an entry into his shit list when I described his
newspaper
( the Christian News) as a platform of whining because the LC-MS 
refused to ordain him (Herman).  Confessional Lutheranism has
done Herman wonders.  He follows the tradition well.  He has no
problems sharing and writing about his views that propagate
"Holocaust Revisionism."  Speaks for itself, doesn't it?  <GRIN>


> While you are at your conference, ask some of these men that you

obviously

> venerate if they will agree to affirm this proposition in public debate:

> "Resolved: the Hebrew god Yahweh exists."  Let me know what answer you

get.

Only if they maintain tape rights and have enough of
the choir on hand.  Jesus needs the bucks!  Amazing
how God can't manage to cover their needs since all they
have to do is simply ask--especially if they are doing God's
will.

Thanks for this post Farrell,

Doug Larson

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