Original sin and repentance (Matt and all)

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In a message dated 97-10-10 06:10:22 EDT, you write:

<< BEN
 Okay then.  Confession.  A sacrament.  Would you classify that as
 repentance? I was Christian for the firs 17 years of my life.  Surely I
 repented sometime in there.  I went to lots of confessions.  Etc....  Come
 on.  I want to hear what you have to say.
 
 MATT
 Infant baptism, confirmation, confession, etc... etc... do nothing to
 absolve
 original sin. Repentance from the individual for their sinful condition
 before God is what is required to have one's sins forgiven and cleansed.
 This is a general comment which we can go into further if you so desire. >>
 
 BEN
 Okay Matt, when I was Christian, I repented from my sinful condition.
 There.  Now the contradiction is valid.  I lost my original sin.  I am
 indifferent.  So am I for or against God?
 
 MATT
 The sin nature is never entirely lost Ben, not this side of heaven anyway.
 If it were lost then Christians would be perfect, which I am sure you would
 be quick to agree they are not. I was not going to comment on your time as a
 Christian, as it is a personal matter, but since you persist with this line
 of argument then it must be pointed out that your comment ' I was a
 Christian for the first 17 years of my life', if meaning from infant baptism
 until the age of 17, and without a definite act of repentance being made in
 that time, then you were never a Christian. If you are not a Christian now,
 as your post implies then you are against God, both passively (original sin)
 and actively (your decision). >>
 
 BEN
 You seem to be missing my point.  I had several individual experiences of
 turning away from sin (definite acts of repentance).  What you are saying is
 that everyone is constantly in sin.  And by saying that I am against, you
 are
 saying that you are against too.  And all Christians for that matter.  You
 say you are for Jesus, but you continue to sin.  So by the definition you
 are
 using to say that I am against Jesus, you are against him, too.  Just
 because
 you say you are for him, doesn't make you for him.  Is anyone else getting
 what I'm saying?  If so, help me out.  It's late, and I'm rambling...
 
 MATT
 The 'several individual experiences of turning away from sins' statement
 you make needs clarification. Do you mean that you repented of individual
 sins that you committed? >>

BEN
 No. Sin as a whole.

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