Original sin and repentance (Matt and all)

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In a message dated 97-10-08 13:48:53 EDT, you write:

<< BEN
 Okay then.  Confession.  A sacrament.  Would you classify that as
 repentance?
 I was Christian for the firs 17 years of my life.  Surely I repented
 sometime in there.  I went to lots of confessions.  Etc...  Come on.  I wan
 tot
 hear what you have to say.
 Ben
 
 MATT
 Infant baptism, confirmation, confession, etc.. etc.. do nothing to absolve
 original sin. Repentance from the individual for their sinful condition
 before God is what is required to have one's sins forgiven and cleansed.
 This is a general comment which we can go into further if you so desire. >>
 
 BEN
 Okay Matt, when I was Christian, I repented from my sinful condition.
 There.  Now the contradiction is valid.  I lost my original sin.  I am
 indifferent.  So am I for or against God?
 
 MATT
 The sin nature is never entirely lost Ben, not this side of heaven anyway.
 If it were lost then Christians would be perfect, which I am sure you would
 be quick to agree they are not. I was not going to comment on your time as a
 Christian, as it is a personal matter, but since you persist with this line
 of argument then it must be pointed out that your comment ' I was a
 Christian for the first 17 years of my life', if meaning from infant baptism
 until the age of 17, and without a definite act of repentance being made in
 that time, then you were never a Christian. If you are not a Christian now,
 as your post implies then you are against God, both passively (original sin)
 and actively (your decision). >>

BEN
 You seem to be missing my point.  I had several individual experiences of
turning away from sin (definite acts of repentance).  What you are saying is
that everyone is constantly in sin.  And by saying that I am against, you are
saying that you are against too.  And all Christians for that matter.  You
say you are for Jesus, but you continue to sin.  So by the definition you are
using to say that I am against Jesus, you are against him, too.  Just because
you say you are for him, doesn't make you for him.  Is anyone else getting
what I'm saying?  If so, help me out.  It's late, and I'm rambling...

Ben

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