Original sin and repentance (Matt)
Ben9275375@aol.com Ben9275375@aol.com
Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:59:53 -0400 (EDT) (00876351593, 971008114923_1309121126@emout17.mail.aol.com)
In a message dated 97-10-08 11:45:32 EDT, you write:
<< MATT
Your understanding of what original [sin is]* is seriously flawed. I do not
wish to pre-empt my discussion with Farrell by commenting further at this
point so
would suggest you follow the discussion between us. Infant baptism is not a
Scriptural practice, and has no absolving power whatsoever. You were born a
sinner, after your infant baptism you were still a sinner and you will
remain so unless you repent from your sinful condition. (Not preaching -
explaining).
NANCY
*I don't meant to put words in Matt's mouth, but I think this is what he
means to say.
So, once we repent from our sinful condition we are no longer sinners?
MATT
Thank you for the post which demonstrates a need for me to clarify that
which I understood by my statement:
"You were born a condemned sinner, after your infant baptism you were still
a condemned sinner and you will remain so unless you repent from your
condemned sinful condition."
When we repent from our old sinful condition we are still sinners but saved
and uncondemned ones.
BEN
Okay then. Confession. A sacrament. Would you classify that as
repentance?
I was Christian for the firs 17 years of my life. Surely I repented
sometime in there. I went to lots of confessions. Etc.. Come on. I wan
tot
hear what you have to say.
Ben
MATT
Infant baptism, confirmation, confession, etc. etc. do nothing to absolve
original sin. Repentance from the individual for their sinful condition
before God is what is required to have one's sins forgiven and cleansed.
This is a general comment which we can go into further if you so desire. >>
BEN
Okay Matt, when I was Christian, I repented from my sinful condition.
There. Now the contradiction is valid. I lost my original sin. I am
indifferent. So am I for or against God?
Ben