1 Step at a Time {Till}

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TILL
On the basis of what Matthew 12:30 says, the indifferent are against Jesus,
but aside from that being a logical absurdity, you have the problem of Mark
9:40, which says that he who is not "against us" is "for us."  That too is
a
logical absurdity.  When you put the two together, you have  X but not X
assertions in the Bible.  Why would that not be a contradiction?  You are
familiar with the logical law of contradiction, which says that the same
object cannot simultaneously be X but not X, aren't you?

MATT
Ok Farrell, let me break down your answer a little, so I keep following
your line of reasoning.

1. You agree that according to Matt.12:30 the indifferent are against
Jesus.
2. Could you explain why you say that is a 'logical absurdity'?

TILL
It is a logical absurdity, because in order for a person to be against
someone, he/she must have some emotions or opinions about that person to
produce an attitude and/or activities that could be called being "against."
If one is indifferent to a person, he/she has no such emotions or
attitudes.
If male X is indifferent to female Y, could it correctly be said that male
X
loves female Y?  I don't think so.  In the same way, if person X is
indifferent to person Y, he could not be said to be either in opposition to
(against)  or supportive of  (for) person Y.  Thus, it is a logical
absurdity to say that someone who is not for me is against me or that
someone who is not against me is for me.

MATT
So Matthew 12:30 is either a logical absurdity or there is maybe something
behind the statement which removes the absurdity part. Do I hear the words
'original sin' echo in my ears.

MATT
3. Are the indifferent in Mark 'with' Jesus? If not, why does that not mean
they are against?

TILL
See my comments above.  As I said in an earlier posting, I am indifferent
to
your Prime Minister.  He is too new for me to have formed an opinion of
him.
Thus, it would be improper to say that I am against him, just as it would
be
improper to say that I am for him.

MATT
Thanks for the clarification.

Matt

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