1 Step at a Time {Till} (fwd)

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>TILL

>On the basis of what Matthew 12:30 says, the indifferent are against Jesus,

>but aside from that being a logical absurdity, you have the problem of Mark

>9:40, which says that he who is not "against us" is "for us."  That too is

>a

>logical absurdity.  When you put the two together, you have  X but not X

>assertions in the Bible.  Why would that not be a contradiction?  You are

>familiar with the logical law of contradiction, which says that the same

>object cannot simultaneously be X but not X, aren't you?

>

>MATT

>Ok Farrell, let me break down your answer a little, so I keep following

>your line of reasoning.

>

>1. You agree that according to Matt.12:30 the indifferent are against

>Jesus.

>2. Could you explain why you say that is a 'logical absurdity'?


TILL
It is a logical absurdity, because in order for a person to be against
someone, he/she must have some emotions or opinions about that person to
produce an attitude and/or activities that could be called being "against."
If one is indifferent to a person, he/she has no such emotions or attitudes.
If male X is indifferent to female Y, could it correctly be said that male X
loves female Y?  I don't think so.  In the same way, if person X is
indifferent to person Y, he could not be said to be either in opposition to
(against)  or supportive of  (for) person Y.  Thus, it is a logical
absurdity to say that someone who is not for me is against me or that
someone who is not against me is for me.

MATT

>3. Are the indifferent in Mark 'with' Jesus? If not, why does that not mean

>they are against?


TILL
See my comments above.  As I said in an earlier posting, I am indifferent to
your Prime Minister.  He is too new for me to have formed an opinion of him.
Thus, it would be improper to say that I am against him, just as it would be
improper to say that I am for him.

RJV 10/3
To futher drive this point home, I'd like to jump in here.  I am in
Medical School at USA.  I know all of my classmates, but I'd be real
surpriesed if any of you knew them.  So, on with my point.

Matt, what is your opinion on the female in my class who has the longest
name?

Check One:

1) For
2) Against
3) Indifferent

Just wondering....

-- R Jason Valentine                          ..ooOO miracle@procyon.com

Chemical Engineer as of March 21, 1997
Med Student, August 1997, University of South Alabama

"What Is Success"  by Ralph Waldo Emerson

To laugh often and much; To win the respect of intelligent people and the
affection of children; To earn the approbation of honest critics and
endure the betrayal of false friends; To appreciate beauty; To find the
best in others; To give of one's self; To leave the world a bit better,
whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social
condition; To have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with
exultation; To know even one life has breathed easier because you have
lived - This is to have succeeded. 

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