A New Discrepancy
Chris Ashton cashton@engr.arizona.edu
Wed, 05 Nov 1997 00:06:31 -0700 (00878735191, 3.0.3.32.19971105000631.006d8f1c@engr.arizona.edu)
>>CHRISA (in advocatus deii mode)
>> Oh, come off it, you cheeseball! :-) Is the Bible so coherent that
>>you have to nitpick at such insignificant and imaginary little grammatical
>>squabbles? So one account says the Holy Spirit came while Peter was
speaking,
>>and the other one as he was beginning to speak. How can you possibly see
>>a contradiction here? Both descriptions are completely appropriate and
>>point to a descending of the Holy Spirit towards beginning of his sermon.
>>
>> I'm glad that I don't know you in real life, Till, I am afraid our
>>conversations would resemble the following (shamelessly copped from Glenn
>>Miller's supersite):
>>
>>ME: "Till, where was the man when he jumped off the bridge?"
>>He: "In the air, of course..."
>>Me: "No, that was AFTER he jumped."
>>He: "Well then, he was ON the bridge when he jumped."
>>Me: "No, that was BEFORE he jumped."
>>He: "Hmmm...are you sure he jumped?"
>
>THE BIG FISH
>You don't know how much I thank you for that response. Apparently, you
>haven't been following the debate between Matt Bell and me on the issue of
>Cornelius's conversion, or you would have known why I posted this as a
>discrepancy. Obviously, it is not a discrepancy, because if the Holy Spirit
>fell on Cornelius as Peter BEGAN to speak, then it fell on him WHILE Peter
>was speaking. The one is just more time specific than the other, but Matt
>has painted himself into a corner on the purpose of Holy Spirit baptism in
>this case of conversion, and so he can't admit that Acts 11:15 means that
>the Holy Spirit fell on Cornelius as Peter began his speech or sermon.
Hey, glad to help. :-] I'm glad that you don't actually think that
those were a REAL contradiction. For a moment you had me worried. Anyways,
yes, so the Holy Spirit did come upon them probably before they were
Christians
and definately before water baptism ... is there another verse that says
this should be otherwise??
- Chris
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