>
> TILL
> I have already shown why it is errant. It doesn't give the reader a clear
> understanding of Yoel's travels, and so it fails to communicate exact ideas.
> That would be an error, a mistake, a gaffe, etc. Do you even read postings
> before you try to respond to them?
>
> (DAVE 5/2) Farrell: Then you have a different definition for error then
> most people in this world (other than atheists of course). Something
> "wrong" is something not "right" - it has nothing to do with how it is
> understood - there is truth or there is not truth. You have absolutely no
> idea where Moserath and Mt Hor actually were, yet you make assertions based
> on ONLY knowing where they were - you are the only thing that we know is
> contradictory here.
(Raymond 5/3) I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but. . .
Dave, the NIV translation of the Bible does exactly what you are
criticizing Mr. Till for doing. If you look at Number 34:7-9, Mt. Hor is
again mentioned; this time it is in reference to the boundaries for the
Israelites when they enter Canaan. Mount Hor is part of the northern
boundary. However, there is a footnote in the NIV version which says of
Mount Hor, "possibily Mt. Hermon, but not the Hor of 20:22, where Aaron
died." If the site's location is not known then how can we know that
these two Mt. Hors are not also equivalent?
(DAVE 5/3) Raymond: I agree. I was disappointed in my translation as
well, and in a couple of commentaries I have here - they completely have
ignored this problem (I don't really have a good commentary handy so I'm not
sure if any address it properly). The NIV translation, in referring to the
mention of Mount Hor in Numbers 20:22, states that "nothing for certain is
known about its location", which is what we are looking for. In my NIV
version I don't have a footnote at all for Num 34:7-9.
I do have an old Bible encyclopedia that differentiates in detail between
the two supposed sites of Mount Hor, outlining where they are "suspected" of
being, but stating that nothing is conclusive.
And if the NIV translation is doing the same thing as Farrell, then it
should be criticized, although I notice it uses the word "possibly" and
doesn't state anything categorically. Farrell, of course, does when he
states that there IS contradiction - he must therefore KNOW where Mount Hor
and Moserath were.
Thanks for the comment.
Dave.
"If Joseph Smith composed this book, the act was clearly a miracle. Keeping
awake while he did it was, at any rate."
- Mark Twain on the Book of Mormon