soul? - (to Ian)

David Court (hoover1@NETCOM.CA)
Tue, 27 May 1997 20:28:21 -0400 (EDT)

David Court wrote:
>
> > Just curious...............
> >
> > Does atheism deny or accept that each individual person has a soul
> > or spirit? Why?
> >
>
> Atheism just denies that there are gods. Whether or not humans have
> souls or spirits is a question for biology. Errancy, which is the
> topic of this list, denies that the Bible is the perfect work of a
> specific god.
>
> (DAVE 5/24) Darrel: Please note Michael's definition of "atheism" - the
> denial of any god. It's very refreshing to see that Michael Savoia has an
> honest understanding of what atheism is and doesn't play around with
> meanings and contexts to compliment his beliefs (if in fact he is an
> atheist). Although, he probably is using "Webster's", or some reputable
> dictionary, like most people and not "Henshell's" or "Till's" or "Fisher's"
> etc. (by the way, what book store can these be purchased in?).
>
> To this day, I have witnessed many claim that they are atheists, but only
> Jerry Friedman and Lance Cote have ever had the bazookas to back their claim
> of atheism up with the assertion that there "is no god" - and Mike Tolbert
> is the only other one who I can remember who has claimed he is not an
> atheist and has made no such assertion as above (my apologies if I have
> missed someone). Jerry, Lance, Mike and a few others (obviously Michael
> Savoia) have an honest approach - much like many Christians - they state
> what they believe - none of this "positive/negative atheism" garbage - the
> true dance of dishonesty.
>
> Oh yes, and I forgot Michael Fisher, the law man who, when asked something
> specific, continually claims that he doesn't know anything EXCEPT that there
> is no God (Yahweh) and that the Bible is false - well, if he doesn't know
> anything concrete about these matters, against what frame of reference is he
> making this unsubstantiated assertion? - himself? Wow, what an authority
> that is.
>
> Darrel, this is about the time you should bring up your IPU response - seems
> as good as any - you are one of my favourite agnostics though, I must say.
>
> Michael (Savoia) - are you an atheist?
>
> Regards.
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
> "atheism: the denial of the existence of God, particularly with regard to
> theistic formulations; godlessness in belief or as a guide to conduct"
> - Webster's

(Ian 5/25) David, shame on you. I think I have stated more than once on this
list that I am a doubting Deist. By that I mean I doubt if there is a God but I
am certain that if there is, it is not the 'great God Yhwh' of the Bible. If
there is a God, it has not revealed itself to man and has had no reson to
reveal
itself to man, Further, it has no interest in having puny man worship it. I
hope
that clears up my beliefs. If not, ask some questions.

(DAVE 5/27) Ian: Agreed. You are one of the ones I "missed" above - my
apologies - you have stated clearly what you believe both here and in the past.

Thanks.

Dave.
"atheism: the denial of the existence of God, particularly with regard to
theistic formulations; godlessness in belief or as a guide to conduct"
- Webster's