ROB
The Bible claims inspiration from God (2 Tim. 3:16). Therefore, since
God is the Creator of all things (Isaiah 44:24), then He is also the
Creator of time.
TILL
Does "Rob" think that he proves that the Bible was inspired of God and that
God is the creator of all things by just quoting a couple of scriptures?
Does he want to debate or does he want to beg questions?
ROB
Thus it is under His control. Only God, then, would always be right about
what is in the future, our future.
TILL
Beautiful! Rob asserts without evidence that "God is the creator of all
things" and that he was "also the creator of time," and then uses those
assumptions to beg another question.
ROB
Another anchor point is that fulfilled prophecy is strong evidence that
God is the author of the Bible because when you look at the mathematical
odds of prophecy being fulfilled, you quickly see a design, a purpose,
and a guiding hand behind the Bible.
TILL
So now all Rob has to do is establish that prophecy fulfillment happened. I
personally defy him to prove a single example of biblical prophecy
fulfillment. Neither he nor anyone else can do it. As we will see, his
examples that follow are certainly no proof of prophecy fulfillment.
ROB
If just one prophecy failed then we would know that God is not the true
God, because the creator of all things, which includes time, would not be
wrong about predicting the future. Deut 18:22 says, "If what a prophet
proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is
a message the LORD has not
spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously" (NIV).
TILL
Very well, since Ezekiel's prophecy against Egypt failed (as I showed in an
earlier posting), Rob's logic requires us to conclude that "God is not the
true God."
ROB
Isaiah 46:9-10 says, "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am
God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make
known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come.
TILL
Does Rob want to debate prophecy fulfillment, or does he just want to quote
scripture and expect us to roll over and play dead? I would be very
interested in seeing from him an argument that would establish (1) the Bible
is inspired of God, and (2) the Bible is in any sense authoritative. Like
practically every biblicist I have known, Rob apparently expects us to grant
him those two assumptions, but I for one don't intend to do that. If he is
going to debate, then he needs to establish the truth of the premises from
which he derives conclusions. Unless he can do that, his arguments are unsound.
At this point, Rob began to list (without supporting evidence) several
alleged prophecy "fulfillments." I will address them individually in
separate postings. Meanwhile, perhaps Rob would like to address the
problems I have identified so far in his attempts to prove prophecy fulfillment.
Farrell Till
Skepticism, Inc.
jftill@midwest.net