PLease, anyone, feel free to take my argument apart.
> > IAN
> > Jerry, you have been going on for some time on how you, being a police
> > officer, licensed by the city, county, state, whatever and the United
> > Staes of America and ultimately by God; have the right to shoot and kill
> > under certain circumstances and that this does not involve situational
> > ethics because you are licensed and that this is your job.
> >
> > You have stated that the rules, regulations and laws are all written
> > down stating when you can and cannot kill. Somehow I doubt that each and
> > every circumstance can be written down and I further feel that
> > circumstances can be such that an officer of the law, sooner or later,
> > may have to resort to situational ethics.
> >
> > Be that as it may, I would like to bring up another situation where laws
> > have been passed and citizens are licensed by the city, county, state,
> > whatever and the United States of America and ultimately by God; to kill
> > that you disagree with.
> >
> > That situation is abortion. There is nothing illegal about abortion. The
> > laws are quite clear. The laws were signed by the president who would
> > not have been in power if your god did not wish him to be in power
> >
> > Perhaps Ihave not made myself quite clear but I am interested in your
> > thouhgt on this as well as the thoughts of Lenny and Michaael.
> > McDonald
>
> JERRY
> > Abortion is the unauthorized taking of an innocent human
> > life--murder. It is not unauthorized by the government, but it is
> > unauthorized Biblically.
>
> IAN
> Learn English Jerry. You have two negatives in that last sentence. What you
> mean is, "It is authorized by the government..." The same government that
> sent you over to Viet-Nam to kill people and you haven't yet said who you
> killed or how many because you know you were wrong and you are ashamed of
> what you did. However you can't lie about it so you say nothing.
>
> Additionally, abortion is not mentioned anyplace in the Bible as much as
> you wish it were. Abortion is not murder. No one can get a tax deduction
> for a fetus. It has the potential to become a human being but it is not a
> human being at the time of the abortion.
>
> JERRY
> At times when the government oversteps its
> > bounds of authority as it has in the case of abortion we must follow
> > the dictates of Peter: "We ought to obey God rather than men" (Acts
> > 5:29).
>
> IAN
> This is just a case of civil disobedience. Situational ethics if you
> please. Very similar to the civil rights movement back in the 60s.
> Certainly you are not going to say the negroes were wrong with there
> sirins? As I said, Jerry, you speak out of both sides of your mouth at the
> same time.
>
> JERRY
> > There is a lot of difference between killing a criminal who is trying
> > to kill you or some other innocent person and killing an innocent
> > baby. Only God has the right to authorize the taking of life and he
> > has not authorized us to take lives by abortion. He has authorized
> > civil government to take human life that is evil.
>
> IAN
> According to your beliefs, our presidents would not be in power if it were
> not his wish. Additionally, our government would not be set up the way it
> is if it were not for the founding fathers whom you and a bunch of other
> fundies keep saying were christian fundamentalists. Well, these christian
> fundy founding fathers set up our executive branch and our legislature and
> our judical system the way it is to prevent any rascals like you from
> forcing their will upon the people. This was done with God's blessing.