Farrell Till wrote:
>
> McDonald 7/25
>
> I have not just talked about a cop's obligation under the law, but
> also his moral obligation and his scriptural authority. Police have
> scriptural authority to take human life if necessary, but there is no
> legal (what the law says), moral or scriptural authority or
> obligation to lie.
>
> Not all killing is murder, therefore all killing is not wrong. All
> murder is killing, but all killing is not murder. Murder is the
> unauthorized taking of human life. Judicial killing. is
> not murder. It is authorized by the law of the land, moral law and
> scripture.
>
> TILL
> Jerry, for some reason you just can't see it--or don't want to see it--but
> everything you have said above points to your recognition that killing is
> not a moral absolute. Killings in some situations are immoral, and we call
> these killings murder. Killings in other situations are justified, and we
> call them justifiable homicide. What's so hard about that?
>
> McDONALD
> Why would there be a law requiring a cop to lie. If such a law
> existed I would refuse to be a cop.
>
> TILL
> What about undercover cops? Are there no laws or at least rules that
> require them to lie in order to perform their work? Let's put you back into
> the situation where you killed in Vietnam because your commander in chief
> had ordered you to. Well, let's suppose that you were captured by the
> enemy. Aren't there regulations that require prisoners to lie in those
> circumstances if necessary to prevent crucial information from falling into
> enemy hands?
>
> Farrell Till
> Skepticism, Inc.
> jftill@midwest.net
McDonald
I have been a cop for four years and I know of no rule or law
requiring an undercover cop to lie. Many of them do, but there is
nothing requiring them to lie. Many of them take drugs, but there is
no law requiring them to do so. In most instances if an undercover
cop doesn't lie his cover would be blown and for that reason I could
never serve as an undercover cop.
As far as being captured is concerned, you really don't know much
about the military do you? When we were in Viet-Nam we were given a
Genieva Convention Card and were instructed to say exactly this and
no more if we were captured: "My name is ___________, my rank is
_____, my social security number is _____________. In my case I
would say "My name is Jerry D. McDonald, my rank is E-2 and my social
security number is -------- (I won't give it here). We were told not
to try to outwit these people and we were specifically told not to
try to lie to them, because they would know get the truth out of us
if we talked. We were told to give our name, rank and social
security number and nothing more.
In Christ's service,
Jerry D. McDonald
jerrydmcdonald@geocities.com
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/mcdonaldsplace/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/7252/index.html
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