Re: A Better List

Helen Willis (hhiwater@mail.bright.net)
Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:01:45 -0800

Matthew 1/11
The reason why I joined this list was to learn more about the issues that
are inherent in discussions concerning apologetics. Unusual for me, I had
> some time at the end of 1996 and the beginning of this year. I had never
> engaged in pure apologetics discussions before or even studied it, and
> thought that it would be a good engage in some discussions.
>
> What I have found on this list is that most of my notes end up as a defense
> against games, trying to prod others toward a useful discussion where all
> might share in their views. As you have seen, it has not been possible to
> disengage the game playing; it continues with nearly every note provided to
> this list by Till.
>
> Interestingly during the time that the system was down, a friend told me
> about another list at Miami Christian University where issues are discussed
> better than here. Interestingly Till was also on this list.
>
> I must admit that it was an eye opener for me on how the Christian there who
> have much more experience than me in apologetics handled Till. Basically,
> they called his bluff in his game playing and handed his head back to him on
> a platter. As you might quess, he called quite a ruckus on that system.
>
> Anyway, if there are some of you who are tired of a steady diet of game
> playing, you might try this system, either in addition to this one or as
> substitute. Below is information on subscribing there.
>
> Because that system offers learning to me which this one does not do, I will
> stay on it now that it has started up. (Note: That system also experienced
> downtime coming up only yesterday again.) This will likely mean that I will
> post less to this system. However, it is hard for me not to speak up when
> Till and others make outrageous comments, even though I will grant that he
> is a more articulate spokesman for his view, than I will ever be for mine.
> As such, I cannot promise that my notes will diminish here.

Helen 1\11:
Please, please please, if you believe any of these people can do a better job
of defending the "inerrancy" of the Bible invite them to come on this list.
You won't do this will you, Matthew, because you know the whole line about
the Bible being "inerrant" is an obvious lie. So now try to deal with these
questions: why did the folks that feed you this line lie to you? And is there
a greater blasphemy than telling lies about God?
Helen Willis
hhiwater@bright.net

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