Re: A Poor Grasp of Logic

Matthew Burdette (burdette@net2.netacc.net)
Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:31:31 -0500 (EST)

Matthew 1/10
It seems to me that Gareth has a number of good points in his note. Is
anyone willing to try?

In Christ,

Matthew

At 02:40 PM 1/10/97 +0000, you wrote:
>[Farrell Till, 10th January 1997]
>> Now to the point: my sincere opinion, Matthew, is that you are seriously
>> lacking in critical thinking skills. I see very little evidence of logic in
>> your postings. You're a joke to anyone who knows principles of logic. The
>> Christians on the list are, of course, exceptions to what I said in the
>> preceding sentence. They would never say that you are a joke, because their
>> loyalty to what they believe is stronger than their loyalty to common sense.
>
>[Gareth McCaughan, 10th January 1997]
>Er, wrong, at least as regards this Christian.
>
>I would not say that Matthew is a joke because I don't consider
>abuse to be worthwhile. I fully agree with Mr Till that Matthew's
>logic is frequently extremely poor, but nothing whatever is gained
>by being abusive.
>
>I am getting increasingly fed up of the constant barrage here of
>"you're intellectually bankrupt -- no, YOU're intellectually
>bankrupt -- no, YOU are". It's coming from both sides of the
>debate; and I don't think it exhibits either the Christ-like
>attitude Christians are supposed to show, or the rationality
>the atheists here are so proud of.
>
>I'm not really sure what it's supposed to achieve, other than
>making the people who do it feel good. As someone who is neither
>an atheist nor an inerrantist, I reckon I have as open a mind
>as anyone on the list; and I can assure you all that when I
>read yet another abusive article it makes me less, rather than
>more, inclined to agree with the person posting it. When I
>read things like
>
> Wouldn't this make Jesus a parasite? Have you tried using
> antibiotics? They might clear this unfortunate condition up.
> It works for the clap! By the way, I thought you were "In
> Jesus", but now you seem to claim "he is in you". Isn't
> this a contradiction?
>
>I begin to wonder whether actually there is some truth in the contention
>that people become atheists just because they hate God; and when I read
>things like
>
> I saved your post that you typed too me and wanted to show
> that you and Till are trying to defy the laws of physics
> by trying to fill a "5 pound bag of reality" with "100
> pounds of nonsense."
>
>I begin to wonder why God would allow his followers to behave so
>stupidly.
>
>I don't really believe that my reanting about this will make things
>any better; but if anyone out there is actually more interested in
>getting their case across than in enjoying abusing their opponents,
>perhaps they will take this into consideration.
>
>> By the way, such loyalty as this is hard for me to understand. I changed
>> from biblical inerrantist to biblical errantist, and one of the main reasons
>> why I changed was that I simply got tired of saying things that I knew were
>> utterly illogical. Harry Truman said, "I would rather be right than
>> president," and I share that view. I would rather be right and despised
>> than wrong and respected.
>
>I think you will find that the inerrantists agree with you on this.
>It is possible to be passionately concerned for truth, and still
>wrong.
>
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