re: Getting a life for Aubrey (Gene)

Aubrey Matthews (paubrey@CASTLES.COM)
Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:08:21 -0800

>To Aubrey: Thanks for your reply to my critique of your approach to
>biblical inerrancy. It was about what I expected.

Gene, the reason I was pressing so hard on the 300' limit is this. It
all started when I mentioned about Noah's ark. Skeptics came out and said: "
The ark could not have been built because of a 300' limit on wooden ships. I
knew better than to except that argument. Some cane straight out and claim
that no wooden ships over 300' were ever built. I knew then that I had a
fight on my hands. After I presented 3 ships and two that are officially
listed as the longest wooden ship at 377' (Rochambeau) and the heaviest
wooden ship at 335' (Richelieu) and the Great Republic at 333', they came
back and claim that the ships were reinforced with iron and were only used
for coastal voyages. That was untrue because the Great Republic made trips
to England. The ships also had mast which put enormous stress on the ships
hulls. The ark didn't have a mast. After I presented the evidence, it was
told that they had to run their bilge pumps continuously. I then mentioned
that Tubal-Cain was able to forge iron. Till came out and ask where did I
get that info from? I said the Bible. He then claim that the Bible was
absurd in that regards. So I proved that iron was indeed forge at the time
of Noah. Michael helped me on that with his reference also. So then the both
of them claim that there wasn't enough iron for them to do anything with.
That was boloney. Anyway I didn't care. The initial argument was that
Tubal-Cain did indeed have iron to work with at the time indicated.

I wanted to use the wings of the Spruce Goose and the Japanese
cardboard platform as a reference that you can build anything as long as you
know the mechanics of engineering. Heck, you saw what a hard time Michael
had in looking up references to dispute my claim. He didn't realize that he
referred to traditional building techniques and not to the ark itself. The
Egptians used light wood and rope to construct boats that threw 'cold water'
on Michaels theory because some of the boats didn't have keels and yet they
carried enormous payloads. To top it off, I found that there were huge all
wooden boats well over the 300' limit. An Egytian war ship was over 420'. It
was not suited for what it was constructed for because it was too huge and
clumsy. The book didn't say it was because of leaks. In fact, the book
(Ancient Mariners, Time-Life books) mentions that boats could have been made
wider and longer (page 72). It shows a picture of the 420' "Forty" ship on
that page. Till mentions that during the winter months people put their
ships up because of storms. Would you row in an opened boat during a
rainstorm? You might sink and that is what the ancient galleys were. So
there you have it. In that regards, Noah's ark was well within the limits as
I mentioned before and that is what this argument was all about. The ark
would have been able to handle the sea and that is why I have said all
along: "It is all in the construction." So now, everyone realizes that there
were indeed, wooden ships over the 300' limit that were ALL WOOD. Till and
Michael will have to except that after their initial claims, and why I have
said that the 300' limit was a fallacy and proven by the ancient mariners
themselves. I don't expect to hear about this anymore because I have some
surprises for Michael and Till if they do. The bottom line is: The case is
closed.
Aubrey


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