Fwd: Re: Fwd: Orignal Sin, and Lucre

Brian Dean bridean@hotmail.com
Sun, 28 Dec 1997 06:59:48 PST (00883342788, 19971228145950.5693.qmail@hotmail.com)


BRIAN
I am going to start following the convention of putting my name in
all caps above my message.  The following is a reply I got when I
forwarded this to a friend of mine named Ron.  I am forwarding it
for your enjoyment.

RON

> The author here conveniently neglects to inform you of the whole
>story! The worship of molech and cult items and practices had been
>instituted. The covenant had been sullied. While conducting repairs
>on the temple a copy of the Torah was discovered. King Josiah,
>feeling convicted, ordered a complete renewal of the Yahwistic
>practices, and ordered the destruction of any foreign practices or
>cult objects. The author conveniently neglects to mention that these
>things were an invasion and treated as such by the Scriptures. There
>was no effort to hide these implications by mistranslation as he
>implies. Is this guy an atheist? Perhaps you had better consult more
>reliable sources. Pick up your Bible. Don't accept these obvious
>misrepresentations!
MSFITT
>>>I like most other people ( somewhat ) believed what we are taught
>>>from childhood, ie " Prostitution is the oldest vice on earth ).
>>>Here, now is the rest of the story, clearly written easy to check,
>>>after all it comes from the " Inspired " mouth ( word ) of Yahveh
>>>( god ), then I suppose it is ok if you are splitting the take with
>>>god, maybe this is the prosperity he ( god ) promised Abraham and
>>>his seed, Maybe we can find one of these seed, plant it and grow us
>>>a bunch of " qadeshah " and enter into the religious ( tax free )
>>>business. After all everything else that has transpired in the name
>>>of God, or Religion has surely been accepted. We could make copies
>>>and hang around Pagan whorehouses (churches)on sunday mornings and
>>>pass them out to the faithful believers as they entered into the
>>>present day versions of ""The Groves "". Till we meet again at the
>>>" Groves " on Xmas day, merry merry all.
>>>
>>>THE TEMPLE HARLOTS OF YAHVEH
>>>
>>> There remain several aspects of Hebrew phallic worship .
>>>One feature common to all the ancient religions was the
>>>consecrated women, or priestess-prostitutes, who
>>>were always in attendance in the temples and at the asherah
>>>("groves"), to participate in the worship with the true believers
>>>who had the price of oblation. Their earnings in this sacred
>>>calling went into the "treasury of Yahveh," and were a large part
>>>of its legitimate income. True, the "law" prescribed: "There shall
>>>be no whore [qadeshah] of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite
>>>[qadesh] of the sons of Israel. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a
>>>whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of Yahveh thy God for
>>>any vow" (Deut. xxiii, 17, 18). But, this "law" was ex post facto,
>>>and totally unobserved, for the practice prevailed even in the holy
>>>temple of Solomon. The Hebrew word "qadesh," the name for the
>>>consecrated devotees of phallism, is exactly the same word as that
>>>for "holy" or "consecrated" or "sanctified"; it is used in the "ten
>>>commandments": "Wherefore Yahveh blessed the sabbath day and
>>>hallowed [qadesh-u] it" (Ex. xx, 11); and in the inscription on the
>>>golden crown of Aaron: "Holiness [godesh] to Yahveh" (Ex. xxxix,
>>>30); and wherever this idea is expressed.
>>>
>>> The first Bible mention of this cult is some five hundred
>>>years before the time of Moses, when the fair young widow Tamar,
>>>despairing of getting the man so often promised her, dressed
>>>herself in the garb of a "qadeshah" or temple-harlot, with a veil
>>>over her face, and went and "sat in an open place" where she knew
>>>that her father-in-law Judah would pass by; and Judah came by, and
>>>fell into her trap, with interesting sequel, related in Genesis
>>>xxxviii. Later Moses, in instituting the religious observances of
>>>the Chosen People, thought it amiss that Hebrew young women and
>>>young men should engage in this religious prostitution, and hence
>>>the "law" above quoted, prohibiting them from acting the role of
>>>temple-prostitutes. So these sacred offices were usually filled by
>>>"the stranger within thy gate," and particularly by the Moabitish
>>>maidens and young men. While yet in the midst of their wanderings
>>>in the wilderness, "the people began to commit whoredom with the
>>>daughters of Moab, ... and bowed down to their gods. And Israel
>>>joined himself unto Baal-peor" (Num. xxv, 1-3); that is, to "Baal
>>>the hymen-breaker," so named because Moabitish maidens were
>>> wont to break their hymens on the idol-phallus before becoming
>>>qadeshoth, or religious prostitutes. As to the qadeshuth, or
>>>official sodomites, who abounded among the Chosen People, as
>>>attested by many scriptural passages, the less said about these
>>>detestable attendants of the worship of Yahveh, the better.
>>>
>>> When Solomon erected the temple of Yahveh, built from plans
>>>drawn by Yahveh himself (1 Chron. xxviii, 19), he made arrangements
>>>for the comfort of these consecrated temple-attendants, and for the
>>>convenience of the phallic worshippers. It is recorded: "And
>>>against the wall of the house he built chambers round about. ...
>>>both of the temple and of the oracle; even ... for the most holy
>>>place" (1 Kings vi, 5, 16). These side-chambers (tselaoth), the
>>>small size of which is stated (vi, 6, 10), were the habitations of
>>>the qadeshoth and the qadeshuth. When the holy temple needed
>>>repairs, the "good King" Jehoash told the priests to use "all the
>>>money of the qadashim [translated dedicated things] that is brought
>>>into the house of Yahveh" (2 Kings xii, 4) for the work of repairs;
>>>but the priests stole it and did not make the repairs (xii, 6).
>>>
>>> These chambers were broken down by Josiah: "And he brake down
>>>the houses of the sodomites, that were in the house of Yahveh,
>>>where the women wove hangings for the asherah" (2 Kings xxiii, 7).
>>>Notwithstanding, so profitable a form of worship continued unabated
>>>in Israel, as in the rest of the heathen world.
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