[Fwd: Proof the Bible is histoicly correct]

Adam Otsen Otsen@sj.bigger.net
Sun, 17 Aug 1997 20:13:44 -0700 (00871895624, 33F7BDE8.E864D5C2@sj.bigger.net)


Farrell Till wrote:


> TILL
> Adam Otsen has sent me and others on the list that old trite argument
> about
> Sir William Ramsay, who was allegedly converted to Christianity
> because he
> was so impressed with the historical accuracy of Luke. At the end of
> his
> posting, he made the following statement:
>
> ><P>"After trying to shatter the historicity and validity of the
> Scripture,
> >I came to the conclusion that it is historically trustworthy.&nbsp;
> If
> >one discards the Bible as being unreliable, then he must discard
> almost
> >all literature of antiquity.&nbsp; One problem I constantly face is
> the
> >desire on the part of many to apply one standard or test ot secular
> literature
> >and another to the Bible.&nbsp; One needs to apply the same test,
> whether
> >the literature under investigation is secular or religious.&nbsp;
> Having
> >done this, I believe one can hold the Scriptures in his hand and say,
> "The
> >Bible is trustworthy and historically reliable." <I>Josh McDowell,
> Evidence
> >that demands a Verdict.</I>
> >
> ><P>There is lot more where this came from, maybe you should get the
> book
> >by Josh McDowell it will show you all the historical facts you could
> ever
> >want.
>
> Otsen is apparently so naive that he thinks we are not familiar with
> Josh
> McDowell's book, even though some of us are involved in writing a
> response
> to it in cooperation with Jeff Lowder, who intends to publish the
> response
> under the title *The Jury Is In.* Mr. Otsen may be surprised to learn
> that
> I have read not just *Evidence That Demands a Verdict* but also its
> sequel,
> as well as *He Walked Among Us,* *The Resurrection Factor,* and
> *Prophecy:
> Fact or Fiction?* The fact that Otsen can apparently do no more than
> regurgitate the shallow material that McDowell publishes indicates to
> me
> that Otsen's apologetic talents are even shallower than McDowell's.
> At any
> rate, I posted on errancy a response to the William Ramsay argument
> when
> Bill Carrell brought it up several months ago. It was lost in the
> crash of
> my e-mail system. If anyone on the list keeps files for several
> months, if
> you can find this one, I would appreciate your forwarding me a copy.
> It
> would spare me the trouble of reconstructing it. Meanwhile, I am
> forwarding
> Otsen's posting to the list for the consideration of others who may be
>
> interested in responding to this.
>
> I hope that Otsen will join the list so that he can interact with
> everyone
> who may wish to participate in this discussion. "Subscribe errancy"
> in the
> message window sent to major-ii@infidels.org will put him on the list.
>
> Farrell Till
> Skepticism, Inc.
> jftill@midwest.net
Well, what can I say? I didn't know I was dealing with such intelligent people. I'm sure you heard this too - If your right, that's great, you have nothing to lose and neither do I, but if I am right, you have everything to lose and I everything to gain. And one other thing you probably know already, the more I am persecuted for Christ the more God blesses me. Thank You!!!