"Jedi Acronym"JEDI
Ian Dorion dorioni@intellinet.com
Thu, 14 Aug 1997 05:00:57 -0600 (00871578057, 33F2E569.5E9D@intellinet.com)
Farrell Till wrote:
>
> JEFF THE OTHER:
>
> Jeff,
> Please pray that AIDS stops, that I and all the other
> atheists/errantists/baptists/catholics on the list become christian, and
> that no fatal automobile accidents happen in the US anymore. According
> to Matthew 17:20 says that if your faith is great enough---and it should
> be for an enlightened, divinely inspired person---it will happen.
> Matthew 21:21-22 makes it even more clear: If you believe, you will
> recieve whatever you ask in prayer. This is identical with saying "If
> you do not recieve what you ask in prayer, you do not believe" because
> "B->A" is the same as "not A->not B", logically speaking.
>
> So, get in your room, close the door, and pray (Matthew 6:6). If you
> just ask it, everyone in the world can be a Christian tomorrow.. Well,
> unless you do not believe.
>
> TILL
> I propose a prayer duel to settle the matter of whether prayer is in any
> sense efficacious. Jeff will enlist the help of 10,000 Christians who will
> join him in fervent prayer that famine, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions,
> floods, pestilence, disease, poverty, and wars will cease. I, all by
> myself, will pray that famine, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, floods,
> pestilence, disease, poverty, and wars continue. Then we will wait to see
> which prayer is "answered."
>
> Farrell Till
> Skepticism, Inc.
> jftill@midwest.net
IAN
In all honesty Farrill, that is not a fair duel since you are both praying to the same
God. I offerred a similar one to Roger Hutchinson except I offerred to k God. Needless
to say, he wouldn't take me up on it.