Re: Mao Tse-Tung
Walter Nusbaum (nusbaum@iglobal.net)
Tue, 1 Apr 1997 09:04:53 -0600
At 09:55 PM 3/31/97 -0600, you wrote:
>> WALT, JR 3/31
>> >Just as the actions of Hitler and Stalin and Tung is a reminder to people
>> >who take atheism seriously. Sorry Ralph, but your logic is really bad
>> >here. For you to connect people of faith universally with the Heaven's
>> >Gate group is equivalent to me connecting all atheists with the likes of
>> >Hitler and Stalin. How about we try to use our minds a little better than
>> >that?
>> >
>> >His,
>> >Walt Jr.
>
>(Christ-Ian 3/31) Walt Jr., Not only was Hitler a Catholic, Pope Pius XII gave
>silent approval to Hitler's plan to exterminate the Jews.
>
>As far as people of faith go, I have yet to see a Christian die as happy as
the
>Heaven's Gate group.
>
>(DAVe 3/31) Ian: How about Stalin? Can you connect him to Christianity
>too? I'm sure there is a way to do it. Can't wait to see what you come up
>with. Oh yes, and Tung. They MUST have talked to a Christian at some time
>- that must qualify them eh?
>
>RJV 3/31
>Dave, we didn't argue about Stalin because his beliefs on God lean towards
>Athiesm. However, Hitler was a Xian. He called himself one, he spit out
>xian words like alot of those I see here from xians. He may not have been
>your flavor of Xian, but he did have a belief in a higher being. THUS HE
>WAS NOT AN ATHEIST. Walt Jr's statement is an outright lie. PERIOD. It
>CONTRADICTS THE KNOWN TRUTH! No wonder you can't see an error in the
>Bible. You can't even see a contradiction concerning a known thiest.
>
>HITLER WAS NOT AN ATHEIST. HE BELIEVED IN A GOD!
>
>You can stew over the fact that he believed in some flavor of the Xian
>God, but he did have a belief. That EXCLUDES him from being an atheist.
>
>Are you inerrantists truly this dishonest with yourselves?
>
>Here we have a blatant lie from Walt Jr (an innerrantist) about Hitler and
>Dave defending this statement, even though I have personally posted about
>Hitler at least two times in recent memory on this very topic. Come to
>think of it, I believe Walt Jr was on the list when my last posting on
>Hitler went out.
>
>-- R Jason Valentine ..ooOO miracle@procyon.com
>
>Can we say drain bamaged?
(Walt Sr.)
Mao was considered a "closet christian" by several high ranking Chineses
officials, including Deng(who replaced him). He was said to have kept a
bible in his quarters even though he outwardly persecuted believers of all
religions. On his deathbed, he asked for Fr. Lin Pin-Loo, a former childhood
friend who was head priest of "The Holy Trinity Church" in Hong Kong, but he
arrived in street clothes too late.
Best wishes,
Walt Sr.